Question: Do you honestly believe that as a percentage of income a rich > >>>> man uses just as much services, or even more so, then you do?
> >>> Yes I do.
> >> More fool you.
> >>> The rich require the infrastructure to accumulate wealth and preserve it.
> >> Nope, they can afford to pay for their own protection and usually do that > >> too.
> >>> The rich require the police and military to protect their wealth.
> >> Like hell they do. They can afford to employ their own goons to protect > >> their wealth and the military isnt involved in protecting their wealth at > >> all.
> >>> The rich have more write-offs, tax breaks, incentives, and subsidies.
> >> Yes, but they end up paying a hell of a lot more tax than > >> say the individuals in the bottom 20% of society too.
> >>> The rich benifit from an educated work force.
> >> That depends entirely on where their wealth comes from.
> >> In some areas they benefit from having stupid uneducated consumers > >> to buy the shit they flog, most obviously with the Waltons. They dont > >> even need an educated work force, just being able to read and write > >> is about all they need from most of their apes and they can afford to > >> pay for the education of those that need better than that too.
> >>> They benifit from a system of non-corruption..
> >> Many of them benefit even more from corruption.
> >>> The poor on the other hand are poor if the system in democratic, > >>> socialised or under a dictator.
> >> Mindlessly silly.
> >>> Upheavel allows the chance to rise above their station.
> >> That chance is available in any modern first world country even without > >> upheavel now.
> >>> And I don’t want to hear about America’s upward mobility;
> >> Its a fact anyway.
> >>> it may have been true when the top income tax rate was above 80%,
> >> And still is today. Look at what so many immigrants manage even today.
> >>> but today there is a downward sinking of the average Americans’ class
> >> Like hell there is.
> >>> — fewer middle class and greater numbers in poverty.
> >> Another pig ignorant lie.
> >> The only ones ‘in poverty’ today are those who are entirely dependant on > >> welfare who are too stupid to live frugally, and ‘the homeless’, most of > >> whom are quite literally barking mad, just not kept in locked wards > >> anymore.
> >> The middle class isnt shrinking at all, it keeps increasing in numbers > >> every single year.
> > You have to see modern America.
> Nope, I know what its like.
> > We have people who are hungry.
> The only hungry in modern america are those on diets and anorexics etc.
> > We have obese people because they are corn fed > > junk, everything has high fructose corn syrup in it.
> Nope, obesity is due to shovelling more calories into your mouth than you > burn.
> > That is why we have so many obese people, they crave nutrition, so they > > eat.
> That is just plain wrong.
> > Instead of nutrition, they get empty calories.
> Plenty of the obese shovel more full calories into their mouths than they > burn.
> > The corn farmer is highly subsidized, the family farm is gone
> Like hell it is.
> > and all they is remaining are food factories that turn > > out corn, corn fed animals and corn by-products.
> Another pig ignorant lie.
> > The poor in this country are fat because the non-nutrious foods are > > subsidized
> Like hell they are.
> > and so the cheapest.
> Another lie. A diet of rice and very little meat at > all is still the cheapest and isnt subsidised at all.
> It just doesnt appeal to the american ‘poor’
> > The education system is geared to producing consumers.
> Another lie.
> > Everyone knows the lyrics to the latest boy-band song, but few can > > balance a check book, let alone understand compounding intrest.
> That has always been true, nothing to do with the education system, > everything to do with what most have between their ears.
> > We have entire families living in cars, under > > bridges, and in the basements of relatives.
> Yep, some fuck up financially. > > Predators prey on our children,
> Nope, FAR more children are abused by their familys and those known to their > familys.
> > marriage is a temporary thing,
> A viable marraige always was for hordes.
> > government wants the man out before they will help,
> Another lie.
> > strip dancing is considered a valid career choice,
> Always was.
> > higher education means years of debt.
> Nope, it doesnt have to.
> > Bankruptcy is no longer an option for the middle class.
> Another lie.
> > Living wage jobs are outsourced overseas.
> Hordes of them arent.
> > Military service is one of the few opportunities for the poor.
> Another lie. They’re free to get a decent education > and a decent job which cant be outsourced.
> > Today the average CEO makes more than 400 times the wage of an average > > worker.
> The average worker lives much better than the average worker did say 100 > years ago.
> > The unemployment rate is given to be 10% but may be in reality above 25%.
> Another lie.
> > Those who work are only a paycheck or two from being homeless.
> Another lie.
> > America used to be the land of opportunity.
> Still is, which is why there is an immense legal and illegal immigration > rate.
> > After WWII, the idea was that by hard work, frugal living, innovation and a > > little luck, > > one could buy a house, raise a family, send the children to college and > > retire in comfort.
> Still can.
> > Today, it is investors who take the lion’s share of the wealth.
> Another lie.
> > Credit card companies take a percentage of nearly every purchase.
> Another lie. The majority pay off their cards in full every month.
> > Laborers are expendable,
> They always were. Which is why it makes sense to get qualified for better > than that.
> > education is useless when the job you train for is out sourced
> Which is why it makes sense to train for a job that cant be.
> > or over run with ‘guest’ workers.
> Which is why it makes sense to train for a job that cant be.
> > Money is made by having money
> Thats just one way of making money.
> > and the worker is tolerated only until he can be replaced.
> And most of them never can be.
> > Upward mobilty is not a fact of life in America anymore.
> Another lie. Have a look at what the immigrant do every day.
> > Interesting reading here: > > http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2006/04/Hertz_MobilityAnalysis…
> Nope, just a complete pack of lies.
Answer: Another Republican pimp. Just get rid of all regulations and see how good it will be, he will promise you.
Who needs to keep commercial and investment banks separate, anyway? Apparently, 99% of us did.
Wasn’t it interesting that bankruptcy laws were changed just before home loans went belly up. It’s almost like some one knew 18 months in advance, what was happening and did nothing to stop it.
Vote the bastards out and vote third party.
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